Re: A few suggestions
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:49 pm
Good Morning Eric!
I'm still getting selection/attraction problems but I've tracked it down (I hope)
After testing on drawings with lines derived from either MacSurf or ClarisCAD via DXF I discovered that it was only vertical or horizontal lines that were non-selectable. Straight lines drawn at an angle were fine.
So - I made a new RealCADD drawing with a vertical line, a horizontal line and an angled line and saved it as a DXF file.
Then I opened the DXF file in RealCADD and sure enough neither the horizontal nor the vertical lines were selectable (and of course you can't draw a perpendicular from them). The angled line was just fine.
You can select the non-selectable lines with a marquee and duplicate or copy and paste them. The copies are equally non-selectable.
So it looks like it is something that happens during importing from a DXF file , which didn't happen in versions prior to b3 and b4.
I got confused with earlier drawings because a lot of the horizontal and vertical lines came from MacSurf via DXF, as polygons with just two end nodes. I convert these to lines and in earlier versions they were just like normal lines. And of course a lot of the lines in the drawing were parallels drawn from them, or duplicates of them. And because a lot of them were originally grid lines they were mostly vertical or horizontal. But these were all drawn in earlier versions of RealCADD, so they behave just like any other lines, and I really lost track of which were dxf derived and which were independently drawn!
I suppose there must be some "memory" that they were originally derived from a DXF import even through many cycles of drawing, different RealCADD versions etc etc, that these new b3 and b4 versions pick up in some way.
I hope this helps. I'm sorry if I didn't get it quite right previously, but it is confusing to say the least, and takes a bit of teasing out! And of course not every RealCADD user will be importing via dxf – it's just most everything I happen to draw comes that way
Just on another note, it seems you still have to close a drawing and re-open it for RC to register the Layer layout – simply saving it doesn't seem to do it. Same if you add new Layer layouts. And the Layers window has to be open for the Layer layout menu to work - is that correct?
And I can't see that the Circle is any different in the Edit pallet?
Later Edit In fact I seem to be having trouble with vertical and horizontal lines on a drawing with the non-selectable lines on it. As soon as a new vertical or horizontal line gets close to, or I join it to, a non-selectable line it seems to become itself non-selectable. Even if I subsequently move it a long way away, it still remains non-selectable. That is very odd.
So I went back to my new RC drawing that I saved as DXF and then re-opened. If I draw a new horizontal or vertical line it is fine. But if I then pick it up and join it to the end point of one of the non-selectable lines it itself becomes non-selectable and you can't draw perpendiculars etc. And then if I subsequently move it away it remains non-selectable. By non selectable I mean with the Arrow cursor - they are selectable with a marquee or via Select All.
I tried making the lines thicker – wondering if the select tool was less sensitive – but this didn't make any difference!
Then I did a Select All and copied and pasted the whole shebang to a new drawing and then none of the vertical or horizontal lines were selectable. Angled lines and other objects were fine.
So I made yet another new drawing with horizontal, vertical and angled lines on it and copied and pasted them to the same drawing (no dxf involved). The horizontal and vertical lines became mostly non-selectable, vertical ones more so than horizontal.
I am confused
Cheers -- George
I'm still getting selection/attraction problems but I've tracked it down (I hope)
After testing on drawings with lines derived from either MacSurf or ClarisCAD via DXF I discovered that it was only vertical or horizontal lines that were non-selectable. Straight lines drawn at an angle were fine.
So - I made a new RealCADD drawing with a vertical line, a horizontal line and an angled line and saved it as a DXF file.
Then I opened the DXF file in RealCADD and sure enough neither the horizontal nor the vertical lines were selectable (and of course you can't draw a perpendicular from them). The angled line was just fine.
You can select the non-selectable lines with a marquee and duplicate or copy and paste them. The copies are equally non-selectable.
So it looks like it is something that happens during importing from a DXF file , which didn't happen in versions prior to b3 and b4.
I got confused with earlier drawings because a lot of the horizontal and vertical lines came from MacSurf via DXF, as polygons with just two end nodes. I convert these to lines and in earlier versions they were just like normal lines. And of course a lot of the lines in the drawing were parallels drawn from them, or duplicates of them. And because a lot of them were originally grid lines they were mostly vertical or horizontal. But these were all drawn in earlier versions of RealCADD, so they behave just like any other lines, and I really lost track of which were dxf derived and which were independently drawn!
I suppose there must be some "memory" that they were originally derived from a DXF import even through many cycles of drawing, different RealCADD versions etc etc, that these new b3 and b4 versions pick up in some way.
I hope this helps. I'm sorry if I didn't get it quite right previously, but it is confusing to say the least, and takes a bit of teasing out! And of course not every RealCADD user will be importing via dxf – it's just most everything I happen to draw comes that way
Just on another note, it seems you still have to close a drawing and re-open it for RC to register the Layer layout – simply saving it doesn't seem to do it. Same if you add new Layer layouts. And the Layers window has to be open for the Layer layout menu to work - is that correct?
And I can't see that the Circle is any different in the Edit pallet?
Later Edit In fact I seem to be having trouble with vertical and horizontal lines on a drawing with the non-selectable lines on it. As soon as a new vertical or horizontal line gets close to, or I join it to, a non-selectable line it seems to become itself non-selectable. Even if I subsequently move it a long way away, it still remains non-selectable. That is very odd.
So I went back to my new RC drawing that I saved as DXF and then re-opened. If I draw a new horizontal or vertical line it is fine. But if I then pick it up and join it to the end point of one of the non-selectable lines it itself becomes non-selectable and you can't draw perpendiculars etc. And then if I subsequently move it away it remains non-selectable. By non selectable I mean with the Arrow cursor - they are selectable with a marquee or via Select All.
I tried making the lines thicker – wondering if the select tool was less sensitive – but this didn't make any difference!
Then I did a Select All and copied and pasted the whole shebang to a new drawing and then none of the vertical or horizontal lines were selectable. Angled lines and other objects were fine.
So I made yet another new drawing with horizontal, vertical and angled lines on it and copied and pasted them to the same drawing (no dxf involved). The horizontal and vertical lines became mostly non-selectable, vertical ones more so than horizontal.
I am confused
Cheers -- George